tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post8271325938555045765..comments2023-10-30T05:40:55.017-07:00Comments on Livin in Layla Land: How About Some Dawah? Seven Questions About IslamStacy K. http://www.blogger.com/profile/06853574441003653244noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-8535890552464184022010-04-05T06:10:07.036-07:002010-04-05T06:10:07.036-07:00hmm very thoughtful questions. I like how you cent...hmm very thoughtful questions. I like how you centred on specific examples rather than generalities such as "islam allows polygamy, oppresses women blah blah."<br />I too am intrigued by the case of Mohammed's marriage to Zaid's wife - which was previously forbidden, until a revelation revealed this did not apply to adopted children. Seems a bit too conveniant to me.<br />Re No 6 you touch on a very sensitive point. Of course worship of Mohammed is strictly forbidden per se. However the treatment afforded him is akin to adulation. Even amongst Muslims, there are some who recognise (even some people I know personally) that many Muslim's perception of M. is tantamount to worship.<br /><br />For me the key element is Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection - you can twist and contort most of the Bible to fit in with the Islamic perspective.. however the concept of salvation and payment of sin in Islam and Christianity really isn't compatible.<br />I find the Islamic view far more.. arbitrary almost? In Islam God can and does chnage or make up Hid mind at will. One person will enter heaven while another is denied paradise. And you never really know which category you are in! It also fails to deal with the existence of sin- doing good stuff doesn't erase the bad stuff:<br />A judge in a court of law doesn't say to a crime barron or murderer - "You committed a few crimes - but since you take care of your elderly mum, give money to charity and live an otherwise moral life I will just overlook it - you're free to go."<br />Biblical claims about Jesus and His death and life are pretty clear- in extra-biblical sources also- and the Islamic claim that this has all been made-up/changed doesn't really hold up historically.(Qurum scrolls, Josephus, Tacitus etc)<br /><br />I think the question of "who is Mohammed?" is a hard one- it's the reason I all but became Muslim because the evidence seemed pretty convincing that he was a prophet. This is usually what causes most people to convert/revert to Islam. Anyone who has started to look into Islam has been presented with a list of information on Mohammed's described moral life, scientific miracles and recitation of Quran- which for most christians can be confronting.<br />I can't claim to know the truth- but I do recall that Satan can make himself appear like "an angel of light" - I personally am inclined to think Mohammed at least originally had good intentions and really believed he was recieving revelation from God, but was decieved. Former Muslims friends who became Christian agree with me..<br /><br />ok sorry for rambling on so much! Just a very interesting topic! If i came across as too "preachy" or offened anyone I'm sorry - no matter what our religious beliefs I have much respect and love for my muslim brothers and sisters!misschatterboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16620056873898706488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-27091897766014458952009-08-04T08:35:21.663-07:002009-08-04T08:35:21.663-07:00@Yasemin, We have similar views on some things in ...@Yasemin, We have similar views on some things in Islam. I do still have a problem with the idea of sexuality in heaven. <br /> <br />I do have less of the problem now with the idea of knowing whether you will attain Jannah or not. Why? Because no matter what we do, we could never even repay God's kindness to create us in the first place. It is all done through his infinite mercy, which we can't even fathom. As you said, the idea of afterlife is very vague in Judaism, and developed more after the coming of Jesus. It is a subject of major importance in the Quran. I don't think the idea is that you live out of fear of hell as much as you live right out of awe and love for the Creator. <br /><br />I'm glad you're back to posting and commenting again!Stacy K. https://www.blogger.com/profile/06853574441003653244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-61207653080582050142009-08-04T08:25:16.655-07:002009-08-04T08:25:16.655-07:00@Susanne, Be sure to come back! I'll definitel...@Susanne, Be sure to come back! I'll definitely have more posts related to such topics in the future.Stacy K. https://www.blogger.com/profile/06853574441003653244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-70409828326592781042009-08-02T15:36:46.402-07:002009-08-02T15:36:46.402-07:00I really enjoyed this post. Great questions!I really enjoyed this post. Great questions!Susannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03115294023069458287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-81479426637445726252009-08-01T22:17:42.913-07:002009-08-01T22:17:42.913-07:00What a fabulous post, I feel terrible that I misse...What a fabulous post, I feel terrible that I missed out, just amazing habibti.<br /><br />First, I think of Islam as but a continuance of Christianity and firstly Judaism. These other religions are equally important in the scheme of things, and as such I came back to Islam. Knowing that these religions were close to my heart as well, and that I COULD BE either of them given different circumstances in life...<br /><br />I came back to Islam despite my knowledge not being there, to just finally make the effort. Half is based on the logic of Islam, but again I could easily be a Jew (more likely) or possibly Christian (problems with Trinity), but my life was taken into account as well with Belal and Youssef.<br /><br />Islam hit me in Disneyland as I recalled this verse:<br /><br />Qur'an 10 37-37 "...it (the Qur'an) is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from The Lord of the Worlds.".<br /><br />1) For me, my biggest issue is being 100% sure that it is the Prophet pbuh mentioned as the Final messenger in the Bible. I have chosen to ignore this larger issue and remember that I am following a continuation of these previous religions especially Judaism. And yet I'm also venerating Jesus in the Muslim way he deserves and was not given in Judaism.<br />I also honor the Sabbath and Shabat as holy days as well.<br /><br />2) I personally feel that The People of The Book will be in Jannah. It is proper of them to also see Islam and Muhamad as very important as well, but I do feel that based on findings, they have a chance as we do. However, they should be true monotheists who do not believe that Jesus could die or that Jesus is part of the Trinity.<br /><br />3) I totally agree and was often troubled by the Islamic Jannah and idea of houris. However, it also seems clear that jannah is much like heaven in other ways, namely the look o Paradise, and the things we will see.<br /><br />4, 5, 6) These are all questions and things I wonder about as well and don't have good answers for.<br /><br />7) Choosing Islam was simple because most Jews do not believe in an afterlife in my experience. At all. They do very good work here on Earth and are prominent in society for that reason. This was my experience at Texas Hillel and it WAS hard...<br /><br />As for Christians, it always seemed TOO EASY to enter heaven. Like it had to be harder than that. <br /><br />Islam has been the best fit for me then, because of the idea that it will be as simple as my good works, and on The Day of Judgement I will stand there before my Maker, and if I have done bad, my lips will be sealed no matter how much I want to talk and refute my bad deeds...I will not even be able to say yes when asked if I was Muslim....<br /><br />Love you endlessly!Yaseminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09511727103777114798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-51066633072110965862009-08-01T16:07:55.782-07:002009-08-01T16:07:55.782-07:00@Sarah Plain and Short,
Thanks for doing those pos...@Sarah Plain and Short,<br />Thanks for doing those posts. Seriously, I do appreciate it a lot.<br />Salaam!Stacy K. https://www.blogger.com/profile/06853574441003653244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-30924484392185331202009-07-31T20:34:04.802-07:002009-07-31T20:34:04.802-07:00@Candice, I would love to see more posts like this...@Candice, I would love to see more posts like this one. I'm sure we all have lots of questions, its just hard to phrase them right or get them all out at once. <br />#2 This is a good point too. You have to have a way for people to worship the true God who never have an opportunity to actually hear the message. I like to think that humans have an innate knowledge of Monotheism are easily tempted to go astray. <br /><br />#3 I like your take on this too. It doesn't <br />have to be literal at all, but human terms fail to describe with it will be like in Paradise. <br /><br />#4 I still can't accept Aisha's age at this point, because I don't see how any girl in that time period would have reached puberty at such a young age. Girls reach it earlier now, but that is only because they have higher body-fat percentages on average. She was definitely mentally more mature though, just look at the amount of material in the hadiths that is narrated by her!Stacy K. https://www.blogger.com/profile/06853574441003653244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-35020970719830135552009-07-31T18:40:59.779-07:002009-07-31T18:40:59.779-07:00Wow, that was a lot of comments H. Hope the blog o...Wow, that was a lot of comments H. Hope the blog owner doesn't mind... Might've been better to post a link but I guess it's not my place to say since it's not my blog.<br /><br />S aka F: What a great post! I've been meaning to come and comment a little, and I'm also meaning to do a similar topic post myself soon, when I think up of things to ask and think about! It's great you're thinking about all these things. <br /><br />1- Very interesting thoughts. I'd never thought about that. I do see Judaism and Christianity as following each other closer (since Jesus was a Jew, I guess) than with Islam, but there would be no reason to replace practices with new ones if Allah is here to confirm the previous scriptures. I like to believe that the Jews when they got their message, and the Christians when they got their's, were following God the same way we should now be following God, but I understand that documents do show differences like the ones you mentionned. I feel though, about Friday prayer, that since Jumah is the word for congregation, it could technically be done on any day of the week and it would be OK. It's just tradition that makes it fall on a Friday, so I don't see it as a big deal that it's not on Saturday like it was for Jews and Christians. <br /><br />And about Muhammad's prophethood, I read a great explanation about it too... I will work to post on that soon on my blog because I can't recall very well offhand.<br /><br />2- Islam just means submission (to the will of God) and I personally think someone without ever having heard of Muhammad or Islam or any religion, could be Muslim (follow Islam).<br /><br />3- I don't think so. I think all the descriptions used are just to make us imagine how perfectly great it will be. It uses human terms like rivers of wine, and so on, but I don't see it like that at all.<br /><br />4-I don't like the idea of Aisha's age much somehow, but I am able to accept it knowing the kind of relationship it was and how different it was then. And I can accept how many there were because he was the prophet and not just anyone else, and it seems clear that it's just for him to have that many wives.<br /><br />6- I think that yes, there is the wrong kind of importance put on Muhammad. He is equaling God in importance a lot of times and I don't like that at all. I accept mentionning Muhammad in the shahada though because that is what differenciates Islam from other religions, and it does say that Muahammad is the messenger, which is the key word because it includes the believe in that message, which is the Qur'an, which is important to being a Muslim.Candicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15769515811889621243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-40761259433932475622009-07-31T10:43:55.782-07:002009-07-31T10:43:55.782-07:00Salaam Habibti - JazakAllah Khair for posting all ...Salaam Habibti - JazakAllah Khair for posting all of that. I think it's a topic that is confusing for me, still seems to me that according to the Qur'an there is no intersession unless Allah allows it, and it worries me that if a Prophet it an intercessor it's like we're raising him above what his status is - almost like idolworship. I may be analyzing it too much. I need to do a lot of reading. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-90598207130444353662009-07-31T09:31:35.755-07:002009-07-31T09:31:35.755-07:00Hi Stacy, I answered your question about the sun r...Hi Stacy, I answered your question about the sun rising on Friday,<br /><br />http://saveoursunnah.blogspot.com/2009/07/for-stacy-aka-fahiima-why-is-friday.htmlSarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384224078079499574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-37833416669559912422009-07-31T01:03:25.563-07:002009-07-31T01:03:25.563-07:00you can check the tafsir of ibn kathir online for ...you can check the tafsir of ibn kathir online for more info. at www.tafsir.com or www.qtafsir.comFatou Thiounehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563937838900680898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-2162621786753501772009-07-31T01:02:26.139-07:002009-07-31T01:02:26.139-07:00This has been explained in comprehensive detail at...This has been explained in comprehensive detail at the end of the Book of Sirah, in the chapter on the specific qualities. Praise be to Allah. Now with the help of Allah we will mention the Hadiths that were reported concerning Al-Maqam Al-Mahmud. Al-Bukhari recorded that Ibn `Umar said: "On the Day of Resurrection, the people will be humbled to their knees, each nation following its Prophet and saying, `O so-and-so, intercede,' `O so-and-so, intercede,' until the power of intercession is given to Muhammad , and that will be the day when Allah raises him to a position of praise and glory. Ibn Jarir recorded that `Abdullah bin `Umar said that the Messenger of Allah said:<br />(The sun will come close until the sweat reaches halfway up one's ears. When the people are in that state, they will ask Adam for help, and he will say, "I am not the one to do that.'' Then they will ask Musa, and he will say likewise, then they will ask Muhammad, and he will intercede for the people and will go and take hold of the handle of the gate of Paradise, and that will be the Day when Allah resurrects him to a position of praise and glory.) Al-Bukhari also recorded it in the Book of Zakah, where he added:<br />(That will be the Day when Allah resurrects him to a position of praise and glory, and all the people will praise him.) Abu Dawud At-Tayalisi recorded that `Abdullah said, "Then Allah will give permission for intercession, and Ar-Ruh Al-Quddus, Jibril, will stand up, then Ibrahim, the close Friend of Allah will stand up, then `Isa or Musa will stand up - Abu Az-Za`ra' said, `I do not know which of them, ' -- then your Prophet will stand up and will intercede, and no one after him will intercede as much as he does. This is the position of praise and glory to which Allah referred:<br />(It may be that your Lord will raise you to Maqam Mahmud.)''<br />and then ibn kathir cited the long hadith from abu hurayrah which is in both sahihs. to understand the quran, we have to use the hadiths. we cannot use the quran and disregards hadiths which are authentic just because we dont understand them. ya'nee i mean we cannt just take certain verses in the quran and interpret them like that. <br />myself too i read those verses about no intercession. and then i heard somewhere else that there is intercession. i was puzzled but it was after more research i came to get the point. and i hope you do too insha'Allah. and this was a reminded to myself firstFatou Thiounehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563937838900680898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-6371910080584880172009-07-31T01:01:54.128-07:002009-07-31T01:01:54.128-07:00This has been explained in comprehensive detail at...This has been explained in comprehensive detail at the end of the Book of Sirah, in the chapter on the specific qualities. Praise be to Allah. Now with the help of Allah we will mention the Hadiths that were reported concerning Al-Maqam Al-Mahmud. Al-Bukhari recorded that Ibn `Umar said: "On the Day of Resurrection, the people will be humbled to their knees, each nation following its Prophet and saying, `O so-and-so, intercede,' `O so-and-so, intercede,' until the power of intercession is given to Muhammad , and that will be the day when Allah raises him to a position of praise and glory. Ibn Jarir recorded that `Abdullah bin `Umar said that the Messenger of Allah said:<br />(The sun will come close until the sweat reaches halfway up one's ears. When the people are in that state, they will ask Adam for help, and he will say, "I am not the one to do that.'' Then they will ask Musa, and he will say likewise, then they will ask Muhammad, and he will intercede for the people and will go and take hold of the handle of the gate of Paradise, and that will be the Day when Allah resurrects him to a position of praise and glory.) Al-Bukhari also recorded it in the Book of Zakah, where he added:<br />(That will be the Day when Allah resurrects him to a position of praise and glory, and all the people will praise him.) Abu Dawud At-Tayalisi recorded that `Abdullah said, "Then Allah will give permission for intercession, and Ar-Ruh Al-Quddus, Jibril, will stand up, then Ibrahim, the close Friend of Allah will stand up, then `Isa or Musa will stand up - Abu Az-Za`ra' said, `I do not know which of them, ' -- then your Prophet will stand up and will intercede, and no one after him will intercede as much as he does. This is the position of praise and glory to which Allah referred:<br />(It may be that your Lord will raise you to Maqam Mahmud.)''Fatou Thiounehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563937838900680898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-26018037718642418642009-07-31T01:00:44.524-07:002009-07-31T01:00:44.524-07:00(At your service, all goodness is in Your Hands an...(At your service, all goodness is in Your Hands and evil is not to be attributed to You. The one who is guided is the one whom You guide. Your servant is before You, from You, and to You and there is no salvation or refuge from You except with You. May You be blessed and exalted, Glory be to You, Lord of the House (the Ka`bah).) This is the position of praise and honor (Maqam Mahmud) which was mentioned by Allah.'' Ibn `Abbas said, "The position of praise and honor is the position of intercession.'' Ibn Abi Najih reported something similar from Mujahid, and this was also the view of Al-Hasan Al-Basri. Qatadah said, "He is the first one for whom the earth will be opened on the Day of Resurrection, and he will be the first one to intercede.'' So the scholars consider this the position of praise and glory to which Allah referred in the Ayah:<br />(It may be that your Lord will raise you to Maqam Mahmud.)Fatou Thiounehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563937838900680898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-66626420824121528662009-07-31T00:59:59.230-07:002009-07-31T00:59:59.230-07:00the long hadith is mentioned in both muslim and bu...the long hadith is mentioned in both muslim and bukhari and it is also mentioned in the tafsir of ibn kathir for the sura Al Isra. <br />(78. Perform the Salah from midday till the darkness of the night, and recite the Qur'an in the early dawn. Verily, the recitation of the Qur'an in the early dawn is ever witnessed.) (79. And in some parts of the night (also) offer the Salah with it as an additional prayer for you. It may be that your Lord will raise you to Maqam Mahmud.) <br /><br />( i skipped the part about the verse 78 to come to the topic of intercession okay)<br />(It may be that your Lord will raise you to Maqam Mahmud.) meaning, `do that which you are commanded to do, and We will raise you to a station of praise and glory (Maqam Mahmud) on the Day of Resurrection, where all of creation will praise you,' as will their Creator, may He be glorified and exalted. Ibn Jarir said, "Most of the commentators said, `This is the position to which Muhammad will be raised on the Day of Resurrection, to intercede for the people so that their Lord will relieve them of some of the hardships they are facing on that Day.''' It was reported that Hudhayfah said, "Mankind will be gathered in one arena, where they will all hear the call and will all be seen. They will be standing barefoot and naked as they were created, and no person shall speak except by the leave of Allah. He will call out, `O Muhammad,' and he will respond,Fatou Thiounehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563937838900680898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-23351293801216345152009-07-31T00:42:56.382-07:002009-07-31T00:42:56.382-07:00and here are other verses and their tafsir which s...and here are other verses and their tafsir which speak about the fact that intercession will be allowed by Allah <br />sura Hud. verse 103. Indeed in that (there) is a sure lesson for those who fear the torment of the Hereafter. That is a Day whereon mankind will be gathered together, and that is a Day when all will be present.) (104. And We delay it only for a term (already) fixed.) (105. On the Day when it comes, no person shall speak except by His (Allah's) leave. Some among them will be wretched and (others) blessed.)<br />llah, the Exalted, is saying that in the destruction of the disbelievers and the salvation of the believers by us is,<br /><br />(a sure lesson). This means an admonition and lesson concerning the truthfulness of that which We are promised in the Hereafter.<br /><br />.(Verily, We will indeed make victorious Our Messengers and those who believe in this world's life and on the Day when the witnesses will stand forth.)﴿40:51﴾ Allah, the Exalted, also says,<br /><br />(So their Lord revealed to them: "Truly, We shall destroy the wrongdoers.) ﴿14:13﴾ Concerning Allah's statement,<br /><br />(That is a Day whereon mankind will be gathered together,) This means the first of them and the last of them. This is similar to Allah's statement,<br /><br />(And We shall gather them all together so as to leave not one of them behind.) ﴿18: 47﴾<br /><br />(and that is a Day when all will be present.) This means a day that is great. The angels will be present, the Messengers will gather and all of the creation will be gathered with their families. The humans, Jinns, birds, wild beasts and domesticated riding animals will all be gathered. Then the Most Just, Who does not wrong anyone even an atom's weight, will judge between them and He will increase their good deeds in reward. Concerning the statement,<br /><br />(And We delay it only for a term (already) fixed.) This means for a fixed period of time than cannot be increased or decreased. Then He says,<br />(On the Day when it comes, no person shall speak except by His (Allah's) leave.) This means that on the Day of Judgement no one will speak except with the permission of Allah. This is similar to another verse, which says,<br /><br />(they will not speak except him whom the Most Gracious (Allah) allows, and he will speak what is right.) ﴿78:38﴾ Allah also says,<br /><br />(And all the voices will be humbled for the Most Gracious (Allah). ) ﴿20:108﴾ In the Hadith about the intercession, which is recorded in the Two Sahihs, the Messenger of Allah said,<br /><br />(No one will speak on that day except the Messengers, and the call of the Messengers will be, "O Allah, save us, save us.'') Concerning Allah's statement,<br />(Some among them will be wretched and (others) blessed.) This means that from the people of the gathering (on Judgement Day), some will be miserable and some will be happy. This is as Allah said,<br /><br />(When a party will be in Paradise and a party in the blazing Fire) ﴿42:7﴾ Al-Hafiz Abu Ya`la recorded in his Musnad on the authority of Ibn `Umar that `Umar said, "When this verse was revealed,<br /><br />(Some among them will be wretched and (others) blessed.) I asked the Prophet , `O Messenger of Allah, will there be a sign for us to know (which party we are from) Will it be because of something that a person did, or something that he did not do' He said,<br />(O `Umar, it will be due to something that he did and the pens wrote it down. But every easy deed was created for its purpose (to be carried out).)Fatou Thiounehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563937838900680898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-55290447243500828022009-07-31T00:31:10.001-07:002009-07-31T00:31:10.001-07:00(70. And leave alone those who take their religion...(70. And leave alone those who take their religion as play and amusement, and are deceived by the life of this world. But remind (them) with it (the Qur'an) lest a soul Tubsal for that which one has earned, when he will find for himself no protector or intercessor besides Allah, and even if he offers every ransom, it will not be accepted from him. Such are they who are given up to destruction because of that which they have earned. For them will be a drink of boiling water and a painful torment because they used to disbelieve.) Allah said,<br /><br /><br />(And leave alone those who take their religion as play and amusement, and are deceived by the life of this world.) The Ayah commands to leave such people, ignore them and give them respite, for soon, they will taste a tremendous torment. This is why Allah said,<br /><br /><br /><br />(But remind with it) meaning, remind the people with this Qur'an and warn them against Allah's revenge and painful torment on the Day of Resurrection. Allah said;<br /><br /><br /><br />(lest a soul Tubsal for that which one has earned,) meaning, so that it is not Tubsal. Ad-Dahhak from Ibn `Abbas, Mujahid, `Ikrimah, Al-Hasan and As-Suddi said that Tubsal means, be submissive. Al-Walibi said that Ibn `Abbas said that Tubsal means, `be exposed'. Qatadah said that Tubsal means, `be prevented', Murrah and Ibn Zayd said that it means, `be recompensed', Al-Kalbi said, `be reckoned'. All these statements and expressions are similar, for they all mean exposure to destruction, being kept away from all that is good, and being restrained from attaining what is desired. Allah also said;<br /><br /><br /><br />(Every person is restrained by what he has earned. Except those on the Right.) ﴿74:38-39﴾, and<br /><br /><br /><br />(when he will find for himself no protector or intercessor besides Allah,) and,<br /><br /><br />(and even if he offers every ransom, it will not be accepted from him.) meaning, whatever the ransom such people offer, it will not be accepted from them. Allah said in a similar statement,<br /><br /><br />(Verily, those who disbelieved, and died while they were disbelievers, the (whole) earth full of gold will not be accepted from anyone of them.) ﴿3:91﴾ Allah said here,<br /><br />(Such are they who are given up to destruction because of that which they have earned. For them will be a drink of boiling water and a painful torment because they used to disbelieve. )Fatou Thiounehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563937838900680898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-77300387631217646532009-07-31T00:30:55.980-07:002009-07-31T00:30:55.980-07:00az zumar
There is no Intercession except with Al...az zumar <br /><br />There is no Intercession except with Allah, and how the Idolators are filled with Disgust when Allah <br /><br />Allah condemns the idolators for taking intercessors besides Allah, namely the idols and false gods whom they have taken on the basis of their own whims, with no evidence or proof. These idols are not able to do anything; they have no minds with which to think, and they cannot hear or see. They are inanimate and are much worse off than animals. Then Allah says: `Say -- O Muhammad -- to these people who claim that those whom they have taken as intercessors with Allah, that intercession is of no avail except for the one with whom Allah is pleased and to whom He has granted permission to intercede. The whole matter rests with Him.'<br /><br />(Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His permission) (2:255).<br /><br />(His is the sovereignty of the heavens and the earth.) means, He is the One Who is in control of all that.<br /><br />(Then to Him you shall be brought back.) means, `on the Day of Resurrection, then He will judge between you with His justice, and He will reward or punish each person according to his deeds.' Then Allah condemns the idolators further:<br /><br />(And when Allah Alone is mentioned) means, when it is said there is no (true) God except Allah Alone,<br /><br />(the hearts of those who believe not in the Hereafter are filled with disgust) Mujahid said, "Their hearts are filled with disgust means they recoil in horror.'' This is like the Ayah:<br /><br />(Truly, when it was said to them: "La ilaha illa Allah,'' they puffed themselves up with pride.) (37:35) which means, they were too proud to follow it. Their hearts could not accept anything good, and whoever cannot accept good will accept evil. Allah says:<br /><br />(and when those besides Him are mentioned,) meaning, the idols and false gods -- this was the view of Mujahid --<br /><br /><br /><br />(behold, they rejoice!) means, they feel happy.Fatou Thiounehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563937838900680898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-44497542646775450392009-07-31T00:28:17.254-07:002009-07-31T00:28:17.254-07:00oh dont worry i know you are not picking up a figh...oh dont worry i know you are not picking up a fight <br />i looked up the tafsir from ibn kathir for the verses you stated<br /> (254. O you who believe! Spend of that with which We have provided for you, before a Day comes when there will be no bargaining, nor friendship, nor intercession. And it is the disbelievers who are the wrongdoers.)<br /><br />tafsir: Allah commands His servants to spend for His sake, in the path of righteousness, from what He has granted them, so that they acquire and keep the reward of this righteous deed with their Lord and King. Let them rush to perform this deed in this life,<br /><br />(before a Day comes) meaning, the Day of Resurrection,<br /><br />(when there will be no bargaining, nor friendship, nor intercession.)<br /><br />This Ayah indicates that on that Day, no one will be able to bargain on behalf of himself or ransom himself with any amount, even if it was the earth's fill of gold; nor will his friendship or relation to anyone benefit him. Similarly, Allah said,<br /><br />(Then, when the Trumpet is blown, there will be no kinship among them that Day, nor will they ask of one another) ﴿23:101﴾.<br /><br />(Nor intercession) meaning, they will not benefit by the intercession of anyone.<br /><br />Allah's statement,<br /><br /><br /><br />(and it is the disbelievers who are the wrongdoers) indicates that no injustice is worse than meeting Allah on that Day while a disbeliever. Ibn Abi Hatim recorded that `Ata' bin Dinar said, "All thanks are due to Allah Who said,<br />(and it is the disbelievers who are the wrongdoers) but did not say, `And it is the wrongdoers who are the disbelievers.'''Fatou Thiounehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563937838900680898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-78693867323212242482009-07-31T00:13:04.799-07:002009-07-31T00:13:04.799-07:00im sorry aynur but it doesnt contradict it. i just...im sorry aynur but it doesnt contradict it. i just picked this issue on islam qa. but i heard many lectures by other sheikhs who say the same thing like bin baz, uthaymeen, taymiyyah, the one at almaghrib center. did you read the tafseer of those verses you gave me? no sahih hadith contradicts the Quran. we cannot interpret the quran or hadiths by ourselves because we are not scholars in the matter. anyways i look up the tafsir on your verses and i come back to you insha'Allah on the issueFatou Thiounehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563937838900680898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-70688445273877590352009-07-31T00:05:56.584-07:002009-07-31T00:05:56.584-07:00Habibti, I forgot to say alaikum wasalaam. And I ...Habibti, I forgot to say alaikum wasalaam. And I didn't want it to seem like I'm picking a fight, it's just an issue that bothers me a lot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-25818345910542218832009-07-30T19:05:50.843-07:002009-07-30T19:05:50.843-07:00Habibti - Sorry, I think it does. I've read t...Habibti - Sorry, I think it does. I've read that Q&A before, it doesn't make sense to me. I can understand intercession as in pleading on the behalf of someone, but no more than that. I am going to stick with what the Qur'an says about this topic, as opposed to the hadith.<br />I take more stock in what the Qur'an says, even if a hadith is considered "sahih" but contradicts what the Qur'an says.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-36503165342517179062009-07-30T18:44:51.063-07:002009-07-30T18:44:51.063-07:00well it is in the hadiths and they are sahih ( aut...well it is in the hadiths and they are sahih ( authentic). we dont question them and we believe in them. we believe in all the prophets sent by Allah, all of them without disregardFatou Thiounehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563937838900680898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-14557208624485171942009-07-30T11:48:38.552-07:002009-07-30T11:48:38.552-07:00That is the first I have heard of the prophets act...That is the first I have heard of the prophets acting as intercessors in Islam too. Not sure if I agree, but it is in those hadiths.Stacy K. https://www.blogger.com/profile/06853574441003653244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405653927651400188.post-70806555314846731172009-07-30T01:46:23.140-07:002009-07-30T01:46:23.140-07:00asalamu alaykum aynur it doesnt go against the Qur...asalamu alaykum aynur it doesnt go against the Quran. <br /><br />http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/21672/intercession<br /><br />hope this clarify for youFatou Thiounehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563937838900680898noreply@blogger.com